How I Design An App Flowchart-The Daily Overpass #616
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Wow! I just started recreating my diagram from Lucid Charts over in Draw.io (had to switch as Lucid Charts limits you to 50 objects per document, including lines, in the free version).
After drawing out a few boxes, I just thought I wonder what will happen if I paste this box in… and it worked! You can copy/paste the entire diagram in seconds so it makes it super easy to migrate over if that's what you have already been using.
There is a huuuge gallery of shapes available, but I'm using the Flow Chart group of objects to do everything Eric does in this video. You can save it out to your own cloud drives so you essentially have unlimited storage.
So far my only negative is that the connecting arrow lines / placement isn't as smooth as Lucid Chart – it is taking a lot more tweaking and re-alignment.
@Chris Rabe / @Simon Suppertime, thanks for the tip with this one! Great solution.
Try Flowgorithm. It is free and Mac friendly I think.
I use Miro board and love it for charts, CJM, mindmaps
Thank you for sharing your process for creating an app flowchart. It is very helpful. I just downloaded Affinity Designer. They currently have a 90 free trial.
They have the program listed for 50% off right now, so it is only $25. It is not a monthly subscription.
LibreOffice Draw
You should try the yEd editor. It's hard to believe that a tool like that is free (and it's been since I can remember, even if the company behind it sell products). I don't look anywhere else when I need to create different types of diagrams.
yEd Graph Editor is free and it's available for Mac
https://www.yworks.com/downloads#yEd
Hi. Check out Diagram Weaver for Mac (no affiliation). I loved Visio when using windows as well and I stumbled upon this app and I honestly love it 🙂
What API server parts mean? can you tell me where to look up?
nice
https://itscienceprojects.com/mobile-application-development-projects/
i just draw my app flowchart. saves time
Check Dia
Just gave LucidCharts a go. Got 30 minutes into it and hit the limit. It seems you can only have 50 objects per document on the free tier 🙁
I think that's a bit of a restrictive limit! It seems like its a great tool but they didn't even give me a chance to fall in love with it.
Have you tried draw.io? Lucidchart reminds me of that
I like using Pencil it is open source and runs on my Mac. It has some nice features like export to PDF and the ability to have events. I find pen and paper still the best but only I can read it :(.
I had the same issue switching to mac but recognizing that having OS agnostic diagramming system had always been a problem that just didn't directly impact me. As a result, of this and the fact that my diagramming is so simple, I exclusively use draw.io online to make them.
Eric Adobe XD versus illustrator which one is better on prototyping ?
can teache me . I will pay per month
Good stuff Eric, I tend to use OmniGraffle if I’m working on something complex that I can’t wrap my head around.
Also I’m not sure if you have done a video on this yet, but could you talk about testing and how important is it to clients that they have a suit of tests built for their application? Or do they tend to skip testing requirements in favor of being cheaper and faster time to market?
If I do flowcharts I mostly to them on paper actually 😅 But I really just work alone so I dont have anyone who I need to show it to. I also found that when doing flow charts it is useful to stick to one "level". So I try to avoid mixing lower level processes into a high level flowchart(if that makes sense). On the few occasionss I had to show someone a visual representation of an app I would just do a quick mockup in photoshop.
But I love paper<3 I always have a notebook at my desk. Its also useful for writing out some sudo code and try to break everything out to function and figure out what I need to do to achieve my "goal" before moving into real code.
I really like lucid charts!
And I really like them as a company. They where probably one of the first usable online chart solution I came across and there marketing is also really creative😅
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7INPjJaRMY&t=0s&list=PLUoebdZqEHTygG_DML0kNfbjnkv-MLnwi&index=19
One thing you don't mention in the video is that its also useful for managing scope creep. You have something that you can point at and say it isn't in the spec. You can also produce a new one with the extra features in it so they can clearly see how much disruption their great new idea will make to the app, and justify the extra cost better.
There is a Visio web app, I thought you mentioned you had the Office 365 subscription in another video, is it not included in your pacakge?
Great Video! Can you please do a video about your entire process when developing an app. From concept, trough production to publication. That would be really amazing! Thank you in advance!